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[2] Following the Proofs is Not Limited to Fiqh Issues, Rather One Has to Accept The Statements of Those Scholars Who Establish The Clear Proofs Against The Innovators and The Deviants!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

They (i.e. the people of doubts) say: ”We are not obliged to take the speech of the Shaikh.”

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Shaikh Rabee (may Allaah preserve him) said:

You find a scholar quoting and refuting the affairs of misguidance found in the Book of such and such a person, in such and such page, yet you find these people saying: ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!’’

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This statement of theirs is a principle by way of which they seek to shun and reject truth.  It is a false principle by way of which they seek to reject the sound principles of Jarh Wat-Tadeel.  Therefore, learn the sound principles of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and look to the methodology of the Salaf; and leave alone these who misguide. They bring turmoil upon the true religion of Allaah and upon the Methodology of the Salaf and its followers.

Question to Al-Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him)

Are the issues of Jarh Wat-Tadeel based on Ijtihaad? And how do we refute the one who says, ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!

Answer:

A group among the schemers against the Salafi Methodology and those who wear a false garment of the Salafiyyah Methodology seek to place in the affair of Jarh Wat-Tadeel, (the false principle): ”We rectify, but we do not disparage;” (and the false principle): ”We want a broad and extensive methodology that will accommodate all the ummah”; (and the false principle): ‘’We rectify but we do not destroy;” Meaning: Neither evil nor bidah is repelled; rather all the Ummah are accommodated in a board and extensive methodology to the extent that even the Raafidah (shia) are accommodated.  So these people begin to make false accusations against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and against those (i.e. the scholars) who establish it.  Some of these false accusers have gone as far as saying that there is no proof in the Qur’aan and the Sunnah to establish the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel!

Indeed, the Qur’aan is filled with the proofs of Jarh Wat Tadeel. The people of pharaoh have been refuted and disparaged; the people of Prophet Nooh have been refuted and disparaged; the people of Prophet Hud have been refuted and disparaged; the people of Prophet Saaleh have been refuted and disparaged; the Quraish have been refuted and disparaged and Abu Lahab has been refuted and disparaged.  The Sunnah and the methodology of the Salaf are filled with Jarh Wat Tadeel and it is a weapon against the people of innovation.  These people promoting such false principles want to break this ‘Jarh Wat-Tadeel Weapon’ into pieces, and they want to deprive the Salafis of this ‘Jarh Wat-Tadeel Weapon’ which is traced back to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).

So a person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel; then a second person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel; then a third person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel; then a fourth one comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel……..then a tenth person comes along and wages war against the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and they are all followed by crowds!! Therefore be warned against these people, for they wear a false gown of Salafiyyah in order to split the Salafis through these false principles and precepts.

A person commits murder and was seen by two trustworthy witnesses; then these two witnesses are summoned in the presence of the ruler who applies the Islamic rulings; so what will he judge by?  He should judge by the law of Islam; and if not then he has opposed the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah Allaah’s Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).    Allaah (The Most High) said:

وَأَشۡہِدُواْ ذَوَىۡ عَدۡلٍ۬ مِّنكُمۡ

”And take for witness two just persons from among you (Muslims).” [65:2]

The evidence for giving witnesses and the evidences for Jarh Wat-Tadeel are one and the same thing.  As for the untrustworthy person, then his narration is not accepted. Likewise, the liar- the deceiver whose speech cannot be determined for its correctness, then his testimony is not accepted. Neither his criticism nor commendation of a person is accepted.  However, if he is a scholar who is precise and skillful, and he says about a person: ”Such and such a person is a liar”; then it is obligatory upon the people to accept his speech.  The Salaf followed this methodology, (such as their saying): ”such and such is a liar”; ”such and such has a bad memory”; ”such and such is an innovator”; ”such and such is a murji”; ”such and such is a khaariji”; ”such and such is a mutazili.” etc   These statements have been made by Imaam Ahmad, Imaam Ibn Ma’een, Imaam Ibn Al-Madeenee, Imaam Bukhaaree etc.  This the path followed by the Salaf; and why is that the case? That is because Allaah commanded us to accept the narration of the trustworthy narrators.  Allaah (The Most High) said:

يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓاْ إِن جَآءَكُمۡ فَاسِقُۢ بِنَبَإٍ۬ فَتَبَيَّنُوٓاْ

O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with a news, verify it’’ [49:6]

Clarification and verification is to be sought when a rebellious evil person narrates. The narration of a rebellious evil person is not declared a lie straight away because it may be correct; but it is not accepted until it is verified.

As for the narration of a trustworthy person–as long as he is trustworthy and precise in what he narrates from the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam), then it is obligatory to accept his narration.  The Books of the Sunnah are filled with the narrations of those truthful narrators—a truthful person who reports from another truthful person with a chain of transmission going back to the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam). However, these people who are seeking to attack the science of Jarh Wat-Tadeel with their false principles want to abolish the sound principles upon which our Religion is established.

Many of the Ahaadeeth of the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam), the transmissions from the companions (radiyallaahu-anhum) and the transmissions from the Imaams of the Sunnah were transmitted from one trustworthy person to another trustworthy person… and it obligatory to accept them, due to the saying of Allaah (The Most High):

[وَأَشۡہِدُواْ ذَوَىۡ عَدۡلٍ۬ مِّنكُمۡ ]

And take for witness two just persons from among you (Muslims).

And with regards to transmission of information, then the information transmitted by one person is sufficient because the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) used to send one person to Chosroes (i.e. the Emperor of Persia) to call him to Islaam and establish the proofs against him.

And he (sallal-laahu-alayhi-sallam) sent one person to Caesar the King of Rome to call him to Islaam and establish the proofs against him.  The people used to enter Islaam through the message of this one trustworthy-truthful person sent by the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam).  And if they rejected Islaam and refused to follow the Messenger of Allaah (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) based on the information transmitted by this one trustworthy-truthful person, he (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) prepared an army against them. The Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) prepared an army for the battle of Tabuk against the Romans based on the fact that they rejected the call to Islaam which was communicated to them by one person.

He (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) sent individuals to Bahrain, Oman and Yemen and their narrations were accepted; so how about in this present time of ours when there are ten or fifty Salafi (scholars) who are in agreement regarding a particular affair, but their narrations are rejected. And those who reject them, say: ‘’There has to be a consensus of all the scholars.’’  And from the false principles of these people is that they say: ‘’we neither accept criticism against a person nor a praise for him even if many of the contemporary scholars say that such a person is an innovator.’’

Therefore be warned against these people, because they make a claim to Salafiyyah, whilst seeking to destroy the Salafi Methodology, its principles and foundations.  How many false precepts do they have, such as their saying: ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!’’  You find a scholar quoting and refuting the affairs of misguidance found in the Book of such and such a person, in such and such page, yet you find these people saying: ‘’I am not obliged to (take/accept) the speech of such and such a Shaikh?!’’

This statement of theirs is a principle by way of which they seek to shun and reject truth.  It is a false principle by way of which they seek to reject the sound principles of Jarh Wat-Tadeel.  Therefore, learn the sound principles of Jarh Wat-Tadeel and look to the methodology of the Salaf; and leave alone these who misguide. They bring turmoil upon the true religion of Allaah and upon the Methodology of the Salaf and its followers.

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Source: Slightly Paraphrased from a lecture of the Shaikh delivered on Yawm Al-Khaamis 28 Shawaal 1431

[1] Following the Proofs and Being Care of Blameworthy Blind Following, Especially When You Know the Proofs and They Are Very Clear to You

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Ibn Abdul-Barr (rahimahullaah) said:

According to the scholars, Taqleed (i.e. blind following) is other than Ittibaa. That is because Ittibaa is to follow a person based on what is apparent to you based on the superiority of his statement and soundness of his school of thought. And Taqleed is that you speak with his statement, whilst you neither know the angle of his speech nor its meaning and you reject speech besides it; or his mistake is made manifest to you, but you follow him and venerate his opposition (to the truth), whilst the corruptness of his speech is clear to you. This is what is forbidden to speak with in the religion of Allaah (The Most High). [End of quote] [1]

Al-Allaamah Rabee Bin Haadi Al-Madkhalee (may Allaah preserve him) said:

Indeed, bigoted partisanship and (blind following) of schools of thought in affairs of creed, affairs of worship, politics and other than it has appeared; so what was the stance of the Imaams of Islaam towards those bigoted partisanships and oppressive Pre-Islamic (traits), which split the Muslims and weakened Islaam at the same time?

Answer:

Indeed, the companions (may Allaah be pleased with them), such as the likes of Abdullaah Ibn Umar freed themselves from the people of bigoted partisanship and desires, as it was narrated by Imaam Muslim (regarding) the time when news reached (Ibn Umar) about those who innovated the doctrine of the negation of Allaah’s pre-decree; so he (Ibn Umar) said:”If you meet those ones inform them that I am free from them and they are free from me”, and what Ibn Umar swore by that ”if one of them were to spend in charity gold equal to mount Uhud, it will not be accepted until they believe in the pre-decree of Allaah.” [2]

A Misunderstanding Regarding The Statement, ‘Laa Inkaar Fee Masaa’il Al-Khilaaf [There Should Be No Repudiation In The affairs of Khilaaf (i.e. differing)]

Some people are under the illusion that what is intended by this statement is that it impermissible to repudiate (others) regarding any affair in which difference of opinion is held.  So based upon this (illusion of theirs), it becomes impermissible to disapprove of a Munkar (an evil) unless there is complete agreement in doing so.  This is a wrong understanding which necessitates the termination of enjoining good and forbidding evil.

The scholars (i.e. of Ahlus Sunnah) hold differences of opinion in most of the Masaa’il (i.e. the verdicts on fiqh and subsidiary issues). And what is correct regarding this statement ‘Laa Inkaar Fee Masaa’il Al-Khilaaf- There should be no repudiation in affairs of Khilaaf (differing)’ is that there should neither be harshness in (one’s) disapproval nor (in one’s) criticism regarding those issues about which there is no manifest proof to be taken as the final (verdict). And the basis upon which this is founded is that the issues of khilaaf (differing) are of two categories:

The First Category: They are those issues of khilaaf in which there is proof necessitating that it should be taken as the final (verdict).  So here, the proof must be taken and the other statement (or opinion) in opposition is discarded.  And whoever follows the statement (or opinion) that is established to be in opposition to the proofs, then he is to be repudiated.

The Second Category: It is those issues of khilaaf in which the proof has not been manifested in order to be taken as the final (verdict).  It is an affair in which the evidences contend with each other or the views are at variance.  This is an issue of Ijtihaad, and there is neither disapproval nor reprimand against the one in opposition; rather advice is given to acquaint (each other) with the statement that carries more weight.   This second category of (khilaaf) is what is intended by the statement ‘Laa Inkaar Fee Masaa-il Al-Khilaaf’ which some people have understood in an unrestricted manner. [3]

Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadee Al Madkhalee (hafidha-hullaah) said:

We do not say that there are people of ijtihaad amongst ahlul bidah because they are followers of desires, and Allaah and His Messenger have testified to this.  The misguided innovator stirs up discord (or splitting) and errs, and then says to you, ‘This is ijtihaad’.

When Hikmatiyaar and the misguided parties (in Afghanistan) murdered Shaikh Jameel Ur-Rahmaan, they said: ‘This is ijtihaad’.  Making lawful the spilling of the blood of the Salafis is Ijtihaad to them.  This is what it is! They (ahlul bidah) do not fall into an affair of misguidance or a calamity except that they say, ‘This is ijtihaad’. This is diluting Islaam.  It is falsehood, misguidance and bidah mixed with truth when the mistakes of the (true and qualified scholars of ijtihaad)- for which they are rewarded- are placed at the same level with innovation about which the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) said that it will be in the fire. [4]

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[1] [Jaami Bayaan Al-Ilm Wa-Fadlihee: 2/787]

[2] [Source: Silsilah Ar-Rasaa-il Al-Ilmiyyah Li-Fadheelatis Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadee Al-Madkhalee….page 370]

[3] [Source: Ibaaraat Moohimah, page 25’ by Shaikh Muhammad Bin Umar Saalim Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him). Abridged and slightly paraphrased]

[4] Ajwibatul Allaamatush Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadee Al Madkhalee Alaa As-ilah Abee Rawaaha Al-Manhajiyyah; page: 20

Quote by Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi from Imaam Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahhaab regarding one of the virtues of Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Hadeeth

Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him) said: He [i.e. Imaam Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhaab (rahimahullaah)] also said:

When it is the case that the happiness of the first generations who embraced Islam and those of the later generations is (only achieved) through following the Messengers, surely the people most worthy of that (happiness) are the ones more knowledgeable regarding the narrations of the Messengers and act upon them (i.e. those narrations) the most. Therefore, those who are (well) acquainted with their (i.e. the Messengers’) statements and actions, those who follow them (i.e. the actions and statements of the Messengers) are the people of happiness in every era and place. They are the saved group among the people of every Milla (i.e. those who truly followed the Prophets and Messengers of old before the sending of Muhammad), and within this Ummah (of Muhammad) they are the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Hadeeth (i.e. the Imaams and scholars of Hadeeth and the authentic Sunnah in all affairs of the religion with the correct understanding- the Sahaabah and those who followed them, and those who will follow their path till the day of judgement). [End of quote]

After this above quote, Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him) said:

He [i.e. Imaam Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhaab (rahimahullaah)] spoke the truth, for indeed they [i.e. Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Hadeeth] gave their entire lives in (seeking) understanding of the Sunnah of Allaah’s Messenger (sallal laahu alayhi wasallam) and bore tiredness in that path, of which none knows (its extent) except Allaah. And (that effort) was not (due to anything else) except due to their love of following Allaah’s Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) Wal-Wuqoof Alaa Aqwaalihee Wa Ahwaalihee [i.e. to study, seek knowledge or pursue the correct understanding of his (the Prophet’s) statements and the his Ahwaal (circumstances, affairs etc surrounding his life). فرضي ٱللُّه وأرضاهم

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[Source: Al-Iqnaa’u Bimaa Jaa’a An A’immatid Da’wati Minal Aqwaal Fil Ittibaa’ pages 17-18’ by Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi Al-Madkhali (may Allaah preserve him)]

3 Days Has Passed, But We’re Still Waiting for Markaz at-Tawheed, Markaz al-Huda and Markaz as-Sunnah to announce Their Stance towards Usaamah Bin Laadin, Zakir Niak and Lashkar Taibah

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Allaah (The Most High) stated:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاءَ لِلَّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَىٰ أَنْفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالْأَقْرَبِينَ ۚ إِنْ يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقِيرًا فَاللَّهُ أَوْلَىٰ بِهِمَا ۖ فَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا الْهَوَىٰ أَنْ تَعْدِلُوا ۚ وَإِنْ تَلْوُوا أَوْ تُعْرِضُوا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا

O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allah is Ever Well-Acquainted with what you do. [4:135]

Shaikh Rabee Bin Haadi (may Allaah preserve him) said: We call to the methodology of the Salaf—to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger.  We utilize them as proofs in our creed; in our acts of worship; in our stances; in our relationship with the rulers and the ruled and in our relationship with the groups and sects.  As for others, they play games and tricks.  By Allaah! You do not find them except that they play tricks and games with the passion (or inclinations) of the youth. [End of quote]

O Markaz at-Tawheed, Markaz al-Huda and Markaz as-Sunnah! We are still waiting for your stance towards Usaamah Bin Laadin, Zakir Niak and Lashkar Taibah! Indeed Imaam Abdul Azeez Bin Baaz (rahimahullaah) refuted Usamah Bin Laadin. See page 4 in this pdf:

Bin-Baaz_Says_Bin_laadin_Is_Misguided

Also see link:

http://www.takfiris.com/takfir/articles/kpavv-usamah-bin-laden-is-a-takfiri-kharijite-and-is-worse-than-the-kharijites-of-old-by-far.cfm

O Markaz at-Tawheed, Markaz as-Sunnah and Markaz al-Huda! What is your stance after Imaam Bin Baaz (rahimahullaah) has clarified with unambiguous evidences to show that Usaamah Bin Laadin is misguided? Once again, we remind you of Allaah’s (The Most High):

Allaah (The Most High) stated:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا كُونُوا قَوَّامِينَ بِالْقِسْطِ شُهَدَاءَ لِلَّهِ وَلَوْ عَلَىٰ أَنْفُسِكُمْ أَوِ الْوَالِدَيْنِ وَالْأَقْرَبِينَ ۚ إِنْ يَكُنْ غَنِيًّا أَوْ فَقِيرًا فَاللَّهُ أَوْلَىٰ بِهِمَا ۖ فَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا الْهَوَىٰ أَنْ تَعْدِلُوا ۚ وَإِنْ تَلْوُوا أَوْ تُعْرِضُوا فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ كَانَ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ خَبِيرًا

O you who believe! Stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even though it be against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, be he rich or poor, Allah is a Better Protector to both (than you). So follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest you may avoid justice, and if you distort your witness or refuse to give it, verily, Allah is Ever Well-Acquainted with what you do. [4:135]

To be continued…In-Shaa-Allaah

 

[5] The Confused Caller to Brotherhood Neither Elaborates On What Type of Evil Suspicion Is Blameworthy Nor Does He Narrate What Made Him Deserving of Rebuke! So If He Ever Exaggerates Again, In Order to Twist The True State of Affairs About His Behaviour And Blame Others, We’ll Have No Choice But To Expose Him In Detail

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful The Bestower of Mercy

Allaah (The Most High) said:

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اجْتَنِبُوا كَثِيرًا مِّنَ الظَّنِّ إِنَّ بَعْضَ الظَّنِّ إِثْمٌ

O you who believe! Avoid much suspicions, indeed some suspicions are sins. 49:12

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The Admin at Masjid Al-Furqan have factual and eye witness evidences regarding the behaviour of the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah (i.e. allies of Greenlane’s Hizbi Admin). Therefore, if he does not refrain from twisting the true state of affairs and continue seeking to blame others for his bad behaviour, we will ask witnesses from Wolverhampton and Birmingham to bear witness to what he did and why he was rebuked.

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Imaam as-Saa’di (rahimahullaah) said: Allaah (The Most High) has forbidden much evil (sinful) suspicion towards the believers, because some suspicions are sins.  And that is like the suspicion devoid of reality and factual evidence, and like the suspicion accompanied by much forbidden speech and action. For indeed, the settlement of evil suspicion in the heart does not restrict the one (in whose heart is that evil suspicion) only to that; rather, he does not cease until he utters and does that which is not permissible. [For Further detail, see Tayseer]

The confused caller to brotherheed at Markaz as-Sunnah (allies of Greenlane’s Hizbi Admin) claims that the Salafiyyoon at Masjid Al-Furqan harboured evil suspicion against him! Indeed, what the confused caller to brotherhood deliberately ignores is that not all types of evil suspicions are blameworthy. The forbidden evil suspicion is that one devoid of reality and factual evidence etc. As for the brothers at Masjid Al-Furqan, they have factual evidences and eye witnesses regarding the behaviour of this person. Therefore, if he ever seeks to twist the true state of affairs regarding his behaviour and blame others, we will ask witnesses from Wolverhampton and Birmingham to witness to what he did to deserve rebuke.

To be continued…In-Shaa-Allaah

[4] The Confused and Bewildered Caller to Brotherhood [@ Markaz As-Sunnah (Stoke-On-Trent)] Said, ‘’Hujja is Qur’aan and hadeeth. Besides Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) everyone’s Kalaam is liable to rejection.’’ [End of Quote] Reader: This is a Statement of Truth Though Which He Seeks after Falsehood and So That He Can Turn a Blind Eye to the Hizbiyyah of His Hizbi Friends and Reject the Clear Proofs against Them

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

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Fudayl Ibn Iyaad (rahimahullaah) was asked about humility, so he said: It is to humble oneself to the truth, submit to it and accept it from the one who utters it.

Ibn Ataa (rahimahullaah) said: Humility is to accept the truth wherever it may be; honour is found in humility, so whoever seeks it though pride is like one who seeks water from fire.

[Madaarij As-Saalikeen Vol. 2]

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Firstly: Dear Reader, the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah stated that the Qur’aan and Hadeeth are the absolute proofs and besides these two everyone’s statement can be accepted or rejected. There is no doubt that this above statement is absolute truth by way of which he seeks to turn a blind eye to the hizbiyyah of his companions and thus reject the unambiguous proofs produced by the salafiyyoon against them.

Al-Allaamah Saaleh Al-Fawzaan (may Allaah preserve him) was asked about the statement of Imaam Maalik (rahimahullaah): Everyone can have his statement accepted or rejected except the inhabitant of this grave [i.e. the Prophet (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam)]’’ as to whether this applies to the Masaa’il Al-Fiqhiyyah Al-Ijtihaadiyyah (i.e. those affairs of fiqh about which the scholars perform ijtihaad to reach a verdict) and not the Masaa’il Al-Aqadiyyah (i.e. the affairs of Aqeedah)?

Answer: There is no differing in the affairs of Aqeedah- there is no room for accepting or rejecting because it is a clear affair based on Tawqeef (i.e. clear and unambiguous evidence from the Qur’aan and authentic Sunnah), rather this (i.e. accepting or rejecting) is with regards to the affairs of Fiqh [i.e. the Masaa’il Al-Fiqhiyyah Al-Ijtihaadiyyah (i.e. those affairs of fiqh about which the scholars perform ijtihaad to reach a verdict)], so everyone can have his statement accepted based on what is in agreement to the evidence (i.e. the Qur’aan and the Sunnah) and what is in opposition to the evidence (i.e. Qur’aan and Sunnah) is rejected. This is what Imaam Maalik (rahimahullaah) intended (by his statement). [source: http://www.alfawzan.af.org.sa/node/2392 ]

Reader: Pay attention to Shaikh Fawzaan’s words as follows: so everyone can have his statement accepted based on what is in agreement to the evidence (i.e. the Qur’aan and the Sunnah) and what is in opposition to the evidence (i.e. Qur’aan and Sunnah) is rejected

Therefore, the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah should not follow his desires and deliberately turn away from the proofs produced by the Salafiyyoon against the Hizbiyyoon of Greenlane and their allies, rather if he thinks that there are no proofs he should justify his view. This is what he should do rather than saying that everyone’s statement can be rejected, even though he has no justification to do so. Indeed, the evidences against these people are nothing else but their own deviations in Manhaj, which they openly proclaim by cooperating and sitting with ahlul bidah. Therefore, this statement of Imaam Maalik (rahimahullaah) should be utilised for truth and not for obstinacy and unjustified rejection against truth.

Secondly: The confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah should know that the Khilaaf between Masjid Al-Furqan and Greenlane’s allies in Stoke-On-Trent is not Khilaaf in issues of Fiqh; rather the khilaaf between Masjid Al-Furqan and them is khilaaf Manhajiy. Shaikh Muqbil Bin Haadi (rahimahullaah) said:

Al-Khilaaf Fiqhiy: It is when the evidence can carry this (meaning) or that (meaning), such as the Hadeeth:”When one of you wakes up from his sleep, he must not put his hand in a utensil till he has washed it three times, for he does not know where his hand was.” The scholars have differed in this (affair); amongst them are those who say that the water becomes impure and amongst them are those who say that it is forbidden (to put one’s hand in the water) but (the water) does not become impure and this affair is a legislated act of worship; and amongst them are those who say that it is Makrooh (disliked to put the one’s hand in the water  but not forbidden), because he (i.e. the person) is upon certainty that his hand is in a state of purity.  So the likes of this (affair) is Ikhtilaaf fiqhiy and similar to it (also is whether) the Basmallaah is to be uttered loudly (during the prayer).

Al-Khilaaf Manhajiy:  As for Al-khilaaf Manhajiy, it is a problematic disease such as the methodology of Ikhwaan Al-Mufliseen; for their Manhaj is entry into elections, houses of parliaments and party Multiplicity.  This is considered to be Ikhtilaaf Manhajiy because it is in opposition to the Book of Allaah and the Sunnah of the Messenger (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wa-alaa-aalihi-wasallam)…… [End of quote…See: Ghaaratul Ash-ritah: page: 40-41: Vol 1]

This is Ikhwaan al-Muslimeen and their differences with the Salafiyyoon are nothing else but Khilaaf Manhajiy- an affair that will lead to deviation and destruction. Likewise, the Khilaaf between Greenlane’s associates (i.e. Ihya Turaath) and the Salafiyyoon is Khilaaf Manhajiy. Shaikh Ubaid (may Allaah preserve him) said: Ihyaa Turaath mixes the religion with politics or bidah with Sunnah. The Shaikh also says: Their call is a mixture. They call to those who are considered to be from ahlul bidah. http://www.sahab.net/forums/?showtopic=117024 [see link about the severe manhaj deviations of ihya turaath (the allies of greenlane: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=5220&srow=21&erow=40

Indeed, pay close attention to this affair so that you are not deceived- in your religious affairs- by the deceitful false claimants to Salafiyyah. The Maraakiz of Salafiyyah do not have a working relationship with any organization or group that mixes Sunnah and bidah. However, Greenlane’s Admin co-operates with organizations and groups that mix Sunnah and Bidah, such as Ihyaa Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute. This is a Manhaj shared between Ihyaa Turaath and Greenlane’s Admin.

Finally: Some people similar to the confused caller to brotherhood have attempted to portray the differences between Greenlane and SP as issues of permissible khilaaf, rather the khilaaf between SP and Greenlane is Khilaaf Manhajiy. See here: http://salaficentre.com/2013/08/salafi-publications-and-greenlane-masjid-what-is-the-basis-of-the-differing/

Shaikh Muhammad Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him) responded to the statement [Laa Inkaar Fee Masaa’il al-khilaaf- There Should Be No Repudiation In The affairs of Khilaaf (i.e. differing)]:

Some people are under the illusion that what is intended by this statement is that it impermissible to repudiate (others) regarding any affair in which difference of opinion is held.  So based upon this (illusion of theirs), it becomes impermissible to disapprove of a Munkar (an evil) unless there is complete agreement in doing so.  This is a wrong understanding which necessitates the termination of enjoining good and forbidding evil.

The scholars (i.e. of Ahlus Sunnah) hold differences of opinion in most of the Masaa’il (i.e. the verdicts on fiqh and subsidiary issues). And what is correct regarding this statement ‘Laa Inkaar Fee Masaa’il Al-Khilaaf- There should be no repudiation in affairs of Khilaaf (differing)’ is that there should neither be harshness in (one’s) disapproval nor (in one’s) criticism regarding those issues about which there is no manifest proof to be taken as the final (verdict). And the basis upon which this is founded is that the issues of khilaaf (differing) are of two categories:

The First Category: They are those issues of khilaaf in which there is proof necessitating that it should be taken as the final (verdict).  So here, the proof must be taken and the other statement (or opinion) in opposition is discarded.  And whoever follows the statement (or opinion) that is established to be in opposition to the proofs, then he is to be repudiated.

The Second Category: It is those issues of khilaaf in which the proof has not been manifested in order to be taken as the final (verdict).  It is an affair in which the evidences contend with each other or the views are at variance.  This is an issue of Ijtihaad, and there is neither disapproval nor reprimand against the one in opposition; rather advice is given to acquaint (each other) with the statement that carries more weight.   This second category of (khilaaf) is what is intended by the statement ‘Laa Inkaar Fee Masaa-il Al-Khilaaf’ which some people have understood in an unrestricted manner. [Source: Ibaaraat Moohimah, page 25’ by Shaikh Muhammad Bin Umar Saalim Baazmool (may Allaah preserve him)]

Indeed, the issues between Greenlane and SP, between Masjid Al-Furqan (stoke) and the allies of Greenlane in stoke (Markaz as-Sunnah, Markaz at-Tawheed and Markaz al-Huda) are issues of Manhaj. SP, Masjid Al-Furqan and their brothers do not cooperate with ahlul bidah, such as Ihyaa Turaath, al-Maghrib Institute and others, but Greenlane and their allies cooperate with ahlul bidah, such as Ihya Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute and others. There are clear and unambiguous evidences showing that Greenlane are upon a hizbi manhaj and this is manifested in their deeds- cooperating with ahlul bidah, such as Ihya Turaath, al Maaghrib institute and others.

 

And even if Greenlane’s Admin and their allies seek to hide their reality by having links with some the Saudi Shaikhs, then we say to them, ”Why do you have links with these Shaikhs- some of whom are considered to be upon the Sunnah- but on the other hand you cooperate with ahlul bidah, such as Ihya Turaath, Yasir Qadhi and other al-Maghrib speakers? Indeed, this is nothing else but mixing haqq with baatil. It was said to Imaam Al-Awzaa’ee (rahimahullaah): Indeed a man says, ”I sit with Ahlus Sunnah and I sit with ahlul bidah.” So Al-Awzaa’ee said: This man wants to equate truth with falsehood. [Al-Ibaanah 2/456]

Therefore, the confused caller to brotherhood should know that the differences between us and his friends are Manhajiy- we are free from the people of bidah, whilst his friends ( Greenlane and their allies) are with the people of bidah and misguidance, such as Ihya Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institute and others. He should submit to the truth and stop seeking lame excuses and making unwarranted emotional appeals. Imaam Fudayl Ibn Iyaad (rahimahullaah) was asked about humility, so he said: It is to humble oneself to the truth, submit to it and accept it from the one who utters it.   Ibn Ataa (rahimahullaah) said: Humility is to accept the truth wherever it may be; honour is found in humility, so whoever seeks it though pride is like one who seeks water from fire.

Reminders:

http://salaficentre.com/2014/07/bigotry-blameworthy-love-of-the-dunyah-envy-and-pride-are-obstacles-to-accepting-the-haqq/

http://salaficentre.com/2013/03/shaikh-abdullaah-al-bukhaari-reasons-for-persistence-upon-falsehood/

And Allaah knows best

To be continued…In-Shaa-Allaah

[3] A Notification to the Confused and Bewildered Caller to Brotherhood at [Markaz As-Sunnah (Stoke-On-Trent)]: Obtain Clear Knowledge of What Blameworthy Taqleed Is Before Accusing Others Based On Jahl and Dhulm!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said:

Speech about the people has to be with knowledge and justice, and not by way of Jahl and Dhlum.

[Minhaajus Sunnah: 4/337]

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Indeed, it is amazing to know that the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah hurled a false accusation at the Salafi Admin of Masjid Al-Furqan -that they are guilty of Taqleed (i.e. blameworthy Taqleed). However, let us inform this person of an affair, which will either manifest his error or false accusation. Ibn Abdul-Barr (rahimahullaah) said:

According to the scholars, Taqleed (i.e. blind following) is other than Ittibaa. That is because Ittibaa is to follow a person based on what is apparent to you based on the superiority of his statement and soundness of his school of thought. And Taqleed is that you speak with his statement, whilst you neither know the angle of his speech nor its meaning and you reject speech besides it; or his mistake is made manifest to you, but you follow him and venerate his opposition (against the truth), whilst the corruptness of his speech is clear to you. This is what is forbidden to speak with in the religion of Allaah (The Most High). [Jaami Bayaan Al-Ilm Wa-Fadlihee: 2/787]

Indeed, the Salafiyyoon at Masjid Al-Furqan and their brothers in the other Maraakiz take firm stances against the people of Hizbiyyah and Tamyee based on the deviance manifested by these people. So take a look at the following:

What is the reality of jamiat ahle hadeeth of old?

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=3384

 

What is the reality of Greenlane’s New Admin?

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/vmelv-warning-from-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/mjghq-al-hidaayah-markaz-jamiyyah-ahl-al-hadeeth-tawfique-chowdhary-yasir-qadhi-and-mohammad-al-shareef.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/amorz-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-3.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/cnejc-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-4.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/eorot-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-5.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/imcoa-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-6.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/rzfwp-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-7.cfm

What is the reality of suhaib hasan?

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=19&Topic=1637

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=9215

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=12494

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=12079

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=12076

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7334

 

What is the reality of abdul Hadi?

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=6023

 

What is the reality of abu usama?

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=21&Topic=1153

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=7061

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=10356

So after examining the evidences against the above organizations and individuals, do we base our stances on blind following or do we establish them based on evidence?! Do you find the Admin of Masjid al-Furqan and their brothers in the other Maraakiz and Masaajid upon these deviated methodologies?! Do we find the Admin at Masjid Al-Furqan upon the platforms of the innovators or co-operating with those who accompany the innovators?! Indeed, never do you find the Admin at Masjid Al-Furqan co-operating with ahlul bidah by the Tawfeeq of Allaah. If you speak again make sure it is based on sound evidence and not out of ignorance, as Shaikhul Islaam Ibn Taymiyyah (rahimahullaah) said: Speech about the people has to be with knowledge and justice, and not by way of Jahl and Dhulm.’’ [Minhaajus Sunnah: 4/337]

To be continued…In-Shaa-Allaah

[2] A Notification to the Confused and Bewildered Caller to Brotherhood at [Markaz As-Sunnah (Stoke-On-Trent)]: Help Yourself Before You Help Others, Because You Are In Need of Sound Manhaj, Otherwise You Would Not Have Been Keeping the Company of The Friends of Those Who Befriend and Shelter Ahlul Bidah, Such As Ihya Turaath and Al-Maghrib Institue!

In The Name of Allaah, The Most Merciful, The Bestower of Mercy

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Ibn Awn (rahimahullaah) said:

من يجالس أهل البدع أشد علينا من أهل البدع

Those who sit with the people of innovation are more severe upon us than the people of innovation themselves.

[Al Ibaanah 2/273]

Therefore, we ask the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah to help himself -first and foremost-by learning the details of the Salafi Manhaj and remove himself from those who sit, praise, accompany and shelter ahlul bidah. This is the right thing to do, rather than uttering or transmitting statements whose implications he does not understand.

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Allaah (The Most High) stated:

وَلَا تَلْبِسُوا الْحَقَّ بِالْبَاطِلِ وَتَكْتُمُوا الْحَقَّ وَأَنتُمْ تَعْلَمُونَ

And mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth while you know (the truth) [2:42]

Indeed, the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah uttered a statement of truth by way of which he desired to promote falsehood. He said that Shaikh Wasiyullah said: ‘’If your brother gets sick are you going to get him treated or will you abandon him?’’ This statement is truth by way of which the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah seeks to utilize for falsehood in order to divert us from the main topic being addressed. Indeed, what this person fails to realize is that the one who innovates is not like the one who follows innovations but did not innovate. The one who knows the truth but follows falsehood is not like the one who does not know. The one who calls to his innovations is not like the one who does not calls. Shaikh Zaid Bin Haadi Al-Mad’khali (rahimahullaah) said:

The people of desires and misguidance are (categorized into) those who are followed and those who follow. Those who are followed are the ones who set up the various principles of innovation and call to their innovation and misguidance. And they will carry their burden of sins and the burden of the sins of those whom they misguided without knowledge, as it is clearly stated in the Qur’aan and the Sunnah.  As for the followers of a leader from amongst the people of desires, then in most cases they are of two categories:

The First Category: Those who possess knowledge, but they harbour evil intentions; so they yield to Satan, desires and the urge of the evil soul. They follow the people of misguidance and oppose the callers to guidance (in that which) Allaah sent His Messenger Muhammad (sallal-laahu-alayhi-wasallam) with.

The Second Category: Their share of knowledge is little, so the people of desires take advantage of them and they become (part) of their group. They convince them that what they call them to is the manifest truth and that what their opponents are upon is falsehood. And they convey to them a huge (number) of affairs that resemble the truth but are falsehood in reality, in order to deceive them and submerge them into misguidance.  As for those who are followed—those who set up principles of bidah and call the people to their bidah and misguidance–then indeed they are marked with the bidah they innovated and call the people to, and for them there is no honour. [Source: Al-Ajwibah Al-Athariyyah Anil Masaa-il Al-Manhajiyyah, Khamsoona Su’aalan Wa-Jawaaban: page: 18-19:]

The above statement of Shaikh Zaid (rahimahullaah) manifests the fact that the followers of an innovator are not all the same-those who are deceived are not similar to those who know the truth but are obstinate upon falsehood. This is why Shaikh Zaid (rahimahullaah) said about the obstinate ones-those who know the haqq but are obstinate-: There is no honour for them after the truth has been established with its evidences and (after) the falsity of that which is in opposition to it of newly invented affairs in the Religion has been clarified.

Therefore, we make it absolutely clear to the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah that help cannot be given to Greenlane’s Admin and their staunch agents in Stoke, for they are well aware of the cause of their sickness (i.e. hizbiyyah), but they neither desire a cure nor do they listen to those who can help them; rather the old and new Admins of Greenlane have been spreading their Hizbiyyah for many years and with determination.

Indeed, we do not say that Greenlane’s Admin and their agents in Stoke-On-Trent are Mubtadi’ah because only the scholars can pass a judgement of Tabdee. However, there is no doubt that their foremost promoter of hizbiyyah (Abu Usama) has been declared a man of bidah by Al-Allaamah Ahmad Bin Yahyah An-Najmi (rahimahullaah).  On the other hand Greenlane’s repugnant hizbiyyah and deviant methodology of sheltering ahlul bidah and deviants is well known to the scholars, such as Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi, Shaikh Ubaid and others. Greenlane’s Admin are a people who openly declare their support for ahlul bidah, such as Ihya Turaath, and they are well known for sheltering and supporting Al-Maghrib Institute and its misguided mentor Yasir Qadhi. Indeed, just recently Greenlane’s Admin were encouraging people to attend Yasir Qadhi’s lecture and Yasir Qadhi is none else but that deviant who desires to unite the deviant sects. See links: http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=9&Topic=6237&sortby=desc Shaikh Muhammad Bin Haadi on Yasir Qadhi: http://safeshare.tv/w/DNzaEWPYHj

Indeed, the Salaf and their Manhaj are free from those who seek to attribute themselves to the Salaf, but on the other hand they keep the company of ahlul bidah. Ibn Abbaas (radiyallaahu-anhumaa) said:

Do not sit with the people of desires (i.e. ahlul bidah) for indeed sitting with them will cause sickness to the hearts. [Al-Ibaanah 2/438]

Imaam Ahmad (rahimahullaah) said:

It is neither permissible for anyone to sit with ahlul bidah nor mix with them, nor socialize with them. [Source: Al-Ibaanah 495]

Shaikh Hamood At-Tuwayjiree (rahimahullaah) said:

Indeed the Salaf As-Saaleh (pious predecessors) used to warn against ahlul bidah and they were severe in warning against them. They forbade (others) from listening to their speech; (forbade others) from sitting with them; (forbade others) from accompanying them and from listening to their speech….[Al-Qawlul Baleegh Fee At-Tahdheer Min Jamaa’ah At-Tableegh. Pages: 31-33]

However, Markaz at-Tawheed, Markaz as-Sunnah and Markaz al-Huda are all allies, companions and confidants of Greenlane’s Admin and Greenlane’s Admin are well known for sheltering ahlul bidah, such as Ihya Turaath, Al-Maghrib Institure and others. Adnaan Abdul Qaadir visited Markaz at-Tawheed- and Adnaan is none else but one of the main students and shelterers of the Mubtadi Siyaasi Ikhwaani Abdur-Rahmaan Bin Abdul Khaaliq. Ibn Awn (rahimahullaah) said:

من يجالس أهل البدع أشد علينا من أهل البدع

Those who sit with the people of innovation are more severe upon us than the people of innovation themselves. [Al Ibaanah 2/273]

This is what Greenlane’s Admin and their allies in stoke do- they invite the people of Bidah at ihyaa Turaath. On the other hand, Greenlane is well known for other affairs of misguidance. For more details about Greenlane’s Admin, visit the following links.

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/vmelv-warning-from-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/mjghq-al-hidaayah-markaz-jamiyyah-ahl-al-hadeeth-tawfique-chowdhary-yasir-qadhi-and-mohammad-al-shareef.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/amorz-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-3.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/cnejc-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-4.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/eorot-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-5.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/imcoa-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-6.cfm

http://www.manhaj.com/manhaj/articles/rzfwp-the-conference-of-green-lane-mosque-singers-and-ikhwanis-and-internal-politics-part-7.cfm

Therefore, we ask the confused caller to brotherhood at Markaz as-Sunnah to help himself first by learning the details of the Salafi Manhaj and remove himself from those who sit, praise, accompany and shelter ahlul bidah. This is the right thing to do, rather than uttering or transmitting statements whose implications he does not understand.

And Allaah knows best

To be continued….In-Shaa-Allaah